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Jul 12, 2015

Ellen Pao Resigns As Reddit CEO: Because Web Hate Speech Is Out of Hand? Or She Is a Bad Manager? Or Both.

Ellen Pao's gender discrimination lawsuit against iconic Silicon Valley venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins focused global attention on issues of inequality and discrimination in tech, even though her charges were ultimately rejected in court.

But the suit also raised credible questions about Pao's abilities as a manager and her empathy as a colleague. So the news that she was forced to resign as interim CEO of Reddit reinforces concerns about hate speech masquerading as free speech, especially misogyny, on the web and in tech companies but raised issues about her personal judgment as well.

The reputational problem for her - and for any manager - is that once tagged, in effect, as a not very nice person, it is very difficult to reverse those perceptions. JL

Davey Alba comments in Wired:

Reddit’s management made critical changes without seeming to consider the impact on the site’s volunteer community. To improve on its business goals, Reddit the company can’t afford to alienate Reddit the community.




3 comments:

Chad said...

The trigger for the reddit revolt was the firing of a woman (Victoria Taylor) who was very good at her job and critical to reddit's operations. Be very clear that the attempts to smear it as some sort of sexist or misogynistic movement are simply cheap opportunism.

I have reviewed the top 10 posts about Ellen Pao and the top 100 voted comments in each. There is not a single sexist comment among them. There are many referring to the bungling of admins -- whether Pao directly or under her leadership -- over how they handled Victoria's firing, their reasons for it and/or lack of explanation to those direct affected, the enormous amount of volunteer work that resulted from the admins' business decisions without consulting the volunteer mods, the policies banning subreddits, and the poor response to complaints from mods, users, and subreddits going private.

Not a word of her sex or race. This doesn't mean none exist but they are, at best, the extreme fringe and not supported by the votes of redditors. I am comfortable calling anybody who refers to the issue as sexism a damn liar. The data is there for all to see and it does not support that hypothesis.

Chad said...

Just another note: The term "hate speech" refers to speech that incites physical violence against an identifiable group. It does not refer to speech expressing negative opinions about identifiable groups (e.g., sex, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation), ideologies (religions, feminism, communism, capitalism, political movements), or individuals (Donald Trump, Ellen Pao, George Bush).

Jon Low said...

Chad - thanks for your comments. The point of the article posted was not to support the claim that Ellen Pao was a victim of racism or sexism, though that is certainly the dominant narrative in the popular press - on and offline - and it is curious that there has been no countervailing theme. I suspect some of that absence can be explained by fear of being branded a racist or sexist. Some of it may be more broadly based not so much on her individual experience, but on that felt more broadly felt across society. It must be said, however, that Reddit can be a harsh and even cruel environment for commentary, so it understandable both that its managers were trying to change that to some degree - as well as that redditors committed to that style would push back hard.

Pao's issues as a manager and a colleague emerged in the Kleiner Perkins trial. They were revealed most dramatically in the testimony that she had made at least one colleague cry. I do not know the specific facts of the Victoria Taylor firing, nor of the relationship between the two of them. It seems apparent that her dismissal was handled callously and, given the importance of the community to Reddit's success, ineffectively.

As for the hate speech definition, I would say that the feeling of the recipient is a significant factor. I do not agree that hate speech is confined only to threats of physical violence.

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